Awakening Together is APT

0:00 This podcast is offered by the San Francisco Zen Center on the web at www.sfzc.org. Our public programs are made possible by donations from people like you. Report an error in the passage at 0:00 Highlight the passage at 0:00

0:15 Good morning. Report an error in the passage at 0:15 Highlight the passage at 0:15

0:21 I feel so excited. I think it's the greatness in the room. Report an error in the passage at 0:21 Highlight the passage at 0:21

0:34 It's so wonderful to feel nervous that there's so much greatness that you feel nervous. Thank Report an error in the passage at 0:34 Highlight the passage at 0:34

0:48 you. Thank you. Report an error in the passage at 0:48 Highlight the passage at 0:48

0:58 Welcome to Green Dragon Temple, fellow travelers, and thank you for being born to come and illuminate the world. Report an error in the passage at 0:58 Highlight the passage at 0:58

1:18 And what a radiant morning it is. Report an error in the passage at 1:18 Highlight the passage at 1:18

1:27 It is November 2nd, 2025. Is that right? I instinctively looked at Kika. Is that right? Now the Shuso. It is Dia de Muertos, Day of the Dead. A day for remembering and celebrating ancestors. This festive Mexican holiday is celebrated at my children's school. And they made a big, beautiful altar, beautifully decorated with pictures of our deceased family members and colored flags, brightly colored flags and candlelight. Report an error in the passage at 1:27 Highlight the passage at 1:27

2:09 And my dad was on that altar for the first time because he passed this year. What a rite of passage. You should put your parents' picture on the altar. And I share that in common with you, I know. Report an error in the passage at 2:09 Highlight the passage at 2:09

2:30 Here at Green Gulch, we just performed Sajjiki, a ceremony that honors our departed family and dharma companions by reading aloud their names and offering, making offerings for their nourishment. And we simultaneously invite any... any spirits, wandering spirits that need nourishment to come at And in the Report an error in the passage at 2:30 Highlight the passage at 2:30

2:59 Catholic tradition, they just celebrated All Saints Day, celebrating those who reached holiness. And today, I think it's All Souls Day, celebrating and appreciating all those who have died. And there are probably more traditions in season that I'm less familiar with. So presently, we... Are the living. Later, our names will be read out as Tsujiiki. But here we are, the living. Report an error in the passage at 2:59 Highlight the passage at 2:59

3:37 So we're doing the reading. How wondrous. Report an error in the passage at 3:37 Highlight the passage at 3:37

3:46 Collectively, we reflect with gratitude on the lives and generosity and effort of our ancestors. That's the season we're in. Report an error in the passage at 3:46 Highlight the passage at 3:46

3:58 Also, if you are a citizen of the United States, election day is just two days away. Report an error in the passage at 3:58 Highlight the passage at 3:58

4:06 If there is a voting opportunity where you live, I pray that you have already voted or that you will imminently vote, that you will rise up and use your powerful voice to support decency, dignity, and awakening. Report an error in the passage at 4:06 Highlight the passage at 4:06

4:28 I offer the invocation of decency, dignity, and awakening as a course of treatment for the ancient maladies of greed, hate, and delusion. Report an error in the passage at 4:28 Highlight the passage at 4:28

4:49 a pause, a sigh. When I say decency, I could also say ethical discipline. And not coincidentally, that is the heart of Buddhist practice. Report an error in the passage at 4:49 Highlight the passage at 4:49

5:10 Here's a summary of ethical discipline from a Zen perspective. I vow to do no harm. I vow to do good for the benefit of all beings. Report an error in the passage at 5:10 Highlight the passage at 5:10

5:30 Pretty straightforward, right? Report an error in the passage at 5:30 Highlight the passage at 5:30

5:38 Maybe you learned this as a child from a sagely grandparent. Report an error in the passage at 5:38 Highlight the passage at 5:38

5:46 At Green College, we express these three vows of ethical discipline every morning. As the day dawns, infused with candlelight and incense and flowers, and bookended with prostrations, it's wonderful, and it's the central point of our practice. Report an error in the passage at 5:46 Highlight the passage at 5:46

6:15 before we sing out these three pure precepts, we fully acknowledge our ancient twisted karma. We openly avow, confess on behalf of those before us. who lived before us. Report an error in the passage at 6:15 Highlight the passage at 6:15

6:35 We confess on their behalf. Report an error in the passage at 6:35 Highlight the passage at 6:35

6:42 The very same ancestors that we love. that the human realm we're living in is a karmic work in progress. Report an error in the passage at 6:42 Highlight the passage at 6:42

7:00 Having acknowledged it, we are responsible for it. Report an error in the passage at 7:00 Highlight the passage at 7:00

7:09 And more than that, we have the power to shift our karmic situation, to improve the gift. Report an error in the passage at 7:09 Highlight the passage at 7:09

7:24 We always have the power to awaken together. And I don't mean when this talk is over. And I do mean now. What do you think? Can we awaken together right now? Report an error in the passage at 7:24 Highlight the passage at 7:24

7:50 What comes up in your body and heart and mind when I say those words? Can Report an error in the passage at 7:50 Highlight the passage at 7:50

8:02 we realize peace together right now on behalf and for the whole universe and Report an error in the passage at 8:02 Highlight the passage at 8:02

8:16 dedicate it to whoever might need help the most right now? I Report an error in the passage at 8:16 Highlight the passage at 8:16

8:34 acknowledge the peace in this room among many people. Right now, and I dedicate it to the beings that need it most in this moment. Report an error in the passage at 8:34 Highlight the passage at 8:34

8:56 You are not the universe. The universe is you. Report an error in the passage at 8:56 Highlight the passage at 8:56

9:07 You are a radiant flicker, a Report an error in the passage at 9:07 Highlight the passage at 9:07

9:14 wonderful radiant flicker. Here Report an error in the passage at 9:14 Highlight the passage at 9:14

9:22 for a moment. Report an error in the passage at 9:22 Highlight the passage at 9:22

9:28 And you have the wonderful destiny of illuminating the universe. Thank you. I bow to you. Report an error in the passage at 9:28 Highlight the passage at 9:28

9:43 Lights will never be replaced by darkness. Light is your in-breath. Shall we observe an in-breath? Report an error in the passage at 9:43 Highlight the passage at 9:43

10:15 When tears come, tears may be just the thing. Report an error in the passage at 10:15 Highlight the passage at 10:15

10:26 Peace is not disturbed by tears. And if you have held a crying baby with gentleness and patience and care, you know this. Report an error in the passage at 10:26 Highlight the passage at 10:26

10:40 And if you hear the words crying baby and you feel aversion, Then this is an important thing to observe. Report an error in the passage at 10:40 Highlight the passage at 10:40

10:51 We have a warm lap for you. Aversion. Report an error in the passage at 10:51 Highlight the passage at 10:51

11:01 Maybe aversion has something important to express. Report an error in the passage at 11:01 Highlight the passage at 11:01

11:07 We were all crying babies and through the miraculous light of the universe, we survived babyhood and were nurtured well enough to become grown up babies. Report an error in the passage at 11:07 Highlight the passage at 11:07

11:21 Thank you, parental beings. You weren't perfect, but you were successful. Report an error in the passage at 11:21 Highlight the passage at 11:21

11:35 Thank you, nurturing causes and conditions. Report an error in the passage at 11:35 Highlight the passage at 11:35

11:43 The world Report an error in the passage at 11:43 Highlight the passage at 11:43

12:12 around you begins to sparkle. If you consider the causes and conditions even just a little Report an error in the passage at 12:12 Highlight the passage at 12:12

12:17 Sparkle and shimmer and sing. Mysterious events begin to unfold for your awakening. in the one and only way possible, together with all beings. Report an error in the passage at 12:17 Highlight the passage at 12:17

12:39 Here's a modern Zen story featuring, I'm happy to say, a handful of grandmotherly practitioners. You won't find this story in any well-known Zen book because it hasn't been recorded. Report an error in the passage at 12:39 Highlight the passage at 12:39

12:53 I chose it because, well, it ends in awakening. And because it is deliciously ordinary. Report an error in the passage at 12:53 Highlight the passage at 12:53

13:03 Pointer. The women in this story were sewing their first rakusu. That's the small robe that some people are wearing. Buddha's robe. Sewn by Zen students while they are preparing to receive the Buddhist precepts. These adepts claimed they were beginners. Report an error in the passage at 13:03 Highlight the passage at 13:03

13:23 But look. Beware the beginner. Watch your footing or you may shed tears. Case. A couple of years ago, I had a sewing student named Louise. She and the others were in their eighth decade, the 70s. Louise had been a textile artist. She definitely had skill with cloth and needles, but she needed my instruction because the rakasu is designed in a uniquely complicated pattern. Report an error in the passage at 13:23 Highlight the passage at 13:23

13:58 Louise was the kind of student who asserted her questions in what often felt to me like an earnest, ambitious, and... I Report an error in the passage at 13:58 Highlight the passage at 13:58

14:09 tried to be patient with my irritability and her hurry, and I also enjoyed her very much. Report an error in the passage at 14:09 Highlight the passage at 14:09

14:38 Louise got so far ahead of the others that she was just about finished while they were progressing more gradually. And then she had a stroke. Report an error in the passage at 14:38 Highlight the passage at 14:38

14:50 She wasn't able to come to sewing class anymore. No Louise interrupting me to inquire about the next step. I missed her. Report an error in the passage at 14:50 Highlight the passage at 14:50

15:02 In the following weeks, the other women in the cohort finished their rakusus and kindly finished the last step of Louise's rakusu. Report an error in the passage at 15:02 Highlight the passage at 15:02

15:12 We next saw her at the Jukai ceremony. ceremony where they received their Rakasus, Buddhist names and precepts. Report an error in the passage at 15:12 Highlight the passage at 15:12

15:24 The same precepts I mentioned earlier. I vow to do no harm. I vow to do good for the sake Louise was now in a wheelchair brought by her daughter, and she was so grateful, so happily, radiantly grateful. Her humility and vulnerability Vulnerability and gratitude stopped me in my tracks. Report an error in the passage at 15:24 Highlight the passage at 15:24

16:03 And she said, everyone is good. And Louise passed on. Louise, as I knew her, Report an error in the passage at 16:03 Highlight the passage at 16:03

16:34 Capping verse in gratitude for the causes and conditions of Louise. Report an error in the passage at 16:34 Highlight the passage at 16:34

16:45 Renowned warrior, needle and thread companion, nearly twice the years of my own hands, you inserted yourself between every other person and sewed up your vow to live for the benefit of all beings, apparently just in time. Report an error in the passage at 16:45 Highlight the passage at 16:45

17:10 You knew what you wanted to finish with this body before saying yes to the surliest of transformations, swapping motor functions for the winding river of gratitude. Report an error in the passage at 17:10 Highlight the passage at 17:10

17:23 You called me teacher, but I awakened together with you. Thank you, Louise. All Report an error in the passage at 17:23 Highlight the passage at 17:23

17:40 beings are our teacher. Report an error in the passage at 17:40 Highlight the passage at 17:40

17:46 They really are. Report an error in the passage at 17:46 Highlight the passage at 17:46

17:54 It is wonderful to be permeated by the intent to not harm, to do good for the sake of everyone. It's a wonderful thing. Report an error in the passage at 17:54 Highlight the passage at 17:54

18:06 Are you with me? Report an error in the passage at 18:06 Highlight the passage at 18:06

18:13 But then I do love a good breakthrough. Report an error in the passage at 18:13 Highlight the passage at 18:13

18:18 It's like when somebody drives you crazy and you marry them. Report an error in the passage at 18:18 Highlight the passage at 18:18

18:28 It's my husband in the back. And then they keep driving you crazy. And then you marry them again. Report an error in the passage at 18:28 Highlight the passage at 18:28

18:40 Because the vow is the marrying. And the vow is the steadiness for the everything. And Report an error in the passage at 18:40 Highlight the passage at 18:40

18:59 the everything, says Louise, is the prerequisite for the river of light. Report an error in the passage at 18:59 Highlight the passage at 18:59

19:11 I feel that great transformations are coming if we keep up the awakening. That is, the request for awakening, the practice of awakening, and the commitment to awakening. Report an error in the passage at 19:11 Highlight the passage at 19:11

19:26 Of course, It isn't you that awakens, thank goodness, so don't get caught up in that, but the universe awakens through us. Report an error in the passage at 19:26 Highlight the passage at 19:26

19:43 During the precept receiving ceremony, the preceptor asks the ordinee, from now on and even after realizing Buddhahood, will you continue to practice this excellent path? And the ordinee says, yes, I will. And then they get asked a second time, and they say again. Yes, I will. And we like to be thorough, so they get asked a third time, even after realizing Buddhahood, will you continue to practice this excellent path? Report an error in the passage at 19:43 Highlight the passage at 19:43

20:14 Yes, I will. And then my favorite line in the whole ceremony, the concluding statement, really revealing myself as a Zen nerd now, may it always be like this. Report an error in the passage at 20:14 Highlight the passage at 20:14

20:34 Did you get it? They get asked, will you continue this even after receiving Buddhahood? Becoming Buddha? Yes, I will. They get asked three times. And then the capping statement is, may it always be just like this. It is a total acknowledgement of the already attained yes. Report an error in the passage at 20:34 Highlight the passage at 20:34

21:01 So dharma nerds like me by this time are blissed out. And the next thing they talk about, the preceptor talks about flowers raining from the heavens. And it's true. Report an error in the passage at 21:01 Highlight the passage at 21:01

21:16 You can be a dharma nerd too. Report an error in the passage at 21:16 Highlight the passage at 21:16

21:23 The reason we're so happy is because it's the universe that arrives to say yes. That's why we're so happy. Report an error in the passage at 21:23 Highlight the passage at 21:23

21:41 The light of endless practice is like a lighthouse. It illuminates the perils. It helps us to not become indifferent. Zen is not indifferent. Report an error in the passage at 21:41 Highlight the passage at 21:41

21:57 But some things require indifference to exist, like... Tyranny? Tyranny requires that people who are committed to decency go to sleep. It requires that we adapt to moral conduct being thrown out the window. That we look the other way when we see cruelty. That we learn to become amused and bolstered by degradation of others. Report an error in the passage at 21:57 Highlight the passage at 21:57

22:28 No. No. Let's wake up together. The degradation of others is not amusing. It hurts. Report an error in the passage at 22:28 Highlight the passage at 22:28

22:45 The definition of Buddha is awake. beings who are awake don't adapt to evil they don't ingest the poisons of greed hate and delusion they work tirelessly to neutralize and transform them birth and death will keep rolling on and awakened beings No to tyranny. No to tyranny. No! To tyranny. Report an error in the passage at 22:45 Highlight the passage at 22:45

23:21 Yes to awakening. Together. Together. Report an error in the passage at 23:21 Highlight the passage at 23:21

23:32 Other people have stood in these shoes before, and now it's our turn. Report an error in the passage at 23:32 Highlight the passage at 23:32

23:40 I'm sitting here wearing Buddha's robe, which is one of my capes, my superhero capes. I have others. Report an error in the passage at 23:40 Highlight the passage at 23:40

23:53 You do too. Report an error in the passage at 23:53 Highlight the passage at 23:53

24:00 You have capes too. And you have an in-breath. Significantly, you have an in-breath. Report an error in the passage at 24:00 Highlight the passage at 24:00

24:11 Which is the full magnitude of light you'll need to do your job of impacting the course of the universe. You have what you need. Good news. You have what you need. You have the in-breath. And you have a cape. There's a whole variety of them. Report an error in the passage at 24:11 Highlight the passage at 24:11

24:31 Nobody's light is brighter than anybody else's. Really. But some of us may have a tendency to try to hide our light or just go on believing that others have light, but we don't. Or worse. Worse, that my light is better than everybody else's. Look how bright. Report an error in the passage at 24:31 Highlight the passage at 24:31

24:55 That's dim. Report an error in the passage at 24:55 Highlight the passage at 24:55

25:00 Light is light and it belongs to no one. but we can enjoy it, celebrate it, actualize it, share it. The only superpowers Report an error in the passage at 25:00 Highlight the passage at 25:00

25:23 that you need are the ones that are already available to you, like the superpower of Report an error in the passage at 25:23 Highlight the passage at 25:23

25:32 I'm aware of my actions of body, speech, and mind. The superpower of reality. We arise together. We awaken together. Together, together, together. Report an error in the passage at 25:32 Highlight the passage at 25:32

25:52 As demonstrated between these walls and beyond. Report an error in the passage at 25:52 Highlight the passage at 25:52

26:01 And the superpower of clarity. No tyranny. No tyranny. Nope. No tyranny. Report an error in the passage at 26:01 Highlight the passage at 26:01

26:15 You don't have to say it forever. We want to live forever. You just need to say it while you're alive and then somebody else will take over. No tyranny. Report an error in the passage at 26:15 Highlight the passage at 26:15

26:26 Every hero needs a companion. And so we have those to offer. And I just wanted to highlight, well, besides the ones sharing the tan over there, the ones sitting, oh, I'm obstructing them, behind me. I do want to highlight some of our companions right here in the room. Report an error in the passage at 26:26 Highlight the passage at 26:26

26:53 The standing figure is Jizo Bodhisattva. You can see Jizo better than I can right now, who's famously ready to accompany beings in need through any realm, even hell. Report an error in the passage at 26:53 Highlight the passage at 26:53

27:06 Jizo's specialty is walking through hell. He's got a toe raised, Report an error in the passage at 27:06 Highlight the passage at 27:06

27:13 never falling Report an error in the passage at 27:13 Highlight the passage at 27:13

27:19 asleep. Report an error in the passage at 27:19 Highlight the passage at 27:19

27:23 Look at the composure on Jizo's face. If you find yourself walking through hell, call on Jizo, whose vow is to accompany you. Report an error in the passage at 27:23 Highlight the passage at 27:23

27:34 He, she, they carry a staff that rattles each time it strikes the earth to awaken beings indiscriminately along the path. Report an error in the passage at 27:34 Highlight the passage at 27:34

27:51 And here, next to me, to my right slightly, is Green Tara. I want to move out of the way. Can you see Green Tara? Report an error in the passage at 27:51 Highlight the passage at 27:51

28:10 A revered deity in Tibetan Buddhism. I love that this Zen temple ended up with some deities that are From a different tradition, we're learning, we're expanding, we're welcoming. Report an error in the passage at 28:10 Highlight the passage at 28:10

28:25 Whose special power is her swift action to protect beings from fear and danger. If you wake up in the night and you find yourself having fearful thoughts, even though there is no imminent danger in the room, you might try calling on Green Tara for her clarity and protection. Report an error in the passage at 28:25 Highlight the passage at 28:25

28:46 Green Tara is said to be able to deal with external fears. When I was reading about... Her, it talked about elephants and snakes, okay? I think more to our time would be hurricanes or assaults. And she also attends to internal fears like arrogance, anger, and doubt. And I thought how interesting to consider arrogance as fear in disguise, to consider anger as fear in disguise. Report an error in the passage at 28:46 Highlight the passage at 28:46

29:22 Anger is a great diversion. Picture the raging alcoholic keeping their vulnerability at bay by blaming everyone else. So I thought, Green Tara, we really need you. There's a lot of fear, and it masquerades as other things, like arrogance and anger. Report an error in the passage at 29:22 Highlight the passage at 29:22

29:46 Enlightened beings are available to help us, but we need to do our part to invoke enough calmness of body and mind so we don't go stumbling past them in our rush to escape hell. Report an error in the passage at 29:46 Highlight the passage at 29:46

30:01 If we are in a rush to escape hell, we will not find our place where we are. If we compose our body and mind even a little bit and keep our eye out for green Tara or for Jizo, then we will meet them and hell will be neutralized. Report an error in the passage at 30:01 Highlight the passage at 30:01

30:26 We don't have to escape hell. We just, we calm ourselves down and hell will become neutralized. Report an error in the passage at 30:26 Highlight the passage at 30:26

30:41 Have you heard the birth story of Green Tara and her sister, White Tara? Perhaps the loveliest birth story you'll ever hear. Report an error in the passage at 30:41 Highlight the passage at 30:41

30:51 Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva who observes the suffering of the world, released tears from his, her, their eyes, and they rolled down and sprang up as White Tara and Green Tara. Report an error in the passage at 30:51 Highlight the passage at 30:51

31:13 Born of the tears of compassion, White Tara is serene. Depicting the mudrā for ultimate generosity with her left hand and holding a lotus flower in her right. Green Tara is ready to spring into action to help others, an embodiment of enlightened activity. Report an error in the passage at 31:13 Highlight the passage at 31:13

31:40 When you make it your practice to look for goodness, to look for the deities, you become better at seeing the goodness and seeing the deities. Report an error in the passage at 31:40 Highlight the passage at 31:40

31:51 And the ordinary world comes to life with support for your practice. Report an error in the passage at 31:51 Highlight the passage at 31:51

32:02 I was driving my car a couple of days ago and encountered a sign that read, changed conditions ahead, slow, use caution. Report an error in the passage at 32:02 Highlight the passage at 32:02

32:13 And because I'm a Zen practitioner, I read the sign and I felt like I was receiving a practice instruction. Report an error in the passage at 32:13 Highlight the passage at 32:13

32:23 Was that funny? Report an error in the passage at 32:23 Highlight the passage at 32:23

32:27 I never know when you're going to laugh. I didn't expect that. Well, about the changing conditions. Yes, exactly. That's what we've got here. Slow down, use care, invoke the help of awakened beings. These wonderful beings are not hoarding any secret practices or teachings. Report an error in the passage at 32:27 Highlight the passage at 32:27

32:54 Realization occurs when the teaching of great beings becomes real to you. Why wait? If Report an error in the passage at 32:54 Highlight the passage at 32:54

33:09 Avalokiteshvara can release tears that roll off his, her, their cheeks, And rise up as white Tara and green Tara. I cannot wait to see the transformative power of your tears. Report an error in the passage at 33:09 Highlight the passage at 33:09

33:35 That's all I'm saying. Report an error in the passage at 33:35 Highlight the passage at 33:35

33:54 Is it 1055? Can anybody verify? Yes. Is there five more minutes to talking and then other things occur? Report an error in the passage at 33:54 Highlight the passage at 33:54

34:10 Okay, are you in the mood? I have two options for you. Are you in the mood for dorky acronym or Energetic song with participation. Report an error in the passage at 34:10 Highlight the passage at 34:10

34:29 We won't force anybody to do any particular thing, but you just have to be at least comfortable enough to get up and walk out of the room or stay and see what happens. Report an error in the passage at 34:29 Highlight the passage at 34:29

34:40 Okay, well, I am called toward the with participation song because it's November, and I think Leonard Cohen gets kind of stirred up for me in November. He died on November 7th, 2016, the day before the first round of madness unleashed. Report an error in the passage at 34:40 Highlight the passage at 34:40

34:57 I respect that. Report an error in the passage at 34:57 Highlight the passage at 34:57

35:02 And I feel like he's a dharma companion to me. He was a Zen practitioner. His name was Silent One. His Zen name that he was given by his teacher was Silent One or Ordinary Silence. And coincidentally, my dharma name is Field of Jewels, Silent Radiance. and Report an error in the passage at 35:02 Highlight the passage at 35:02

35:25 Anyway, there is something about, anyway, he's a companion to me, so I didn't put his picture on the altar for Dia de los Muertos, but you can help me honor Leonard Cohen now, a fellow Zen practitioner. Report an error in the passage at 35:25 Highlight the passage at 35:25

35:43 You're familiar with his version of anthem. Ring the bells that still can ring. offering forget your perfect offering there is a crack a crack in everything that's how the light gets in that's how the light gets in So that was Report an error in the passage at 35:43 Highlight the passage at 35:43

36:26 me trying to sing something like he sang it, but I wanted to add some energy now because I don't want to just fall into some somber I want to also visit an energetic place. I heard another version of this. Maybe this is the part of me that really wanted to be in, I don't know, some of the traditions that have more energy and more movement. Report an error in the passage at 36:26 Highlight the passage at 36:26

36:51 I miss that sometimes in Zen. So that's your warning. Let's do this call and response. Okay. You're going to repeat after me, except for the very last line, which might be obvious. You just leave that one out. Okay. Report an error in the passage at 36:51 Highlight the passage at 36:51

37:08 Forget your perfect offering. Just ring the bells that still can ring. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. That's how the light gets in. That's how the light gets in. That's how the light gets in. Let's try that once more. We can polish that up. Report an error in the passage at 37:08 Highlight the passage at 37:08

37:42 I think he would be pleased. I think he would be happy. Forget your perfect offering. Just ring the bells that still can ring. There is a crack in everything. Report an error in the passage at 37:42 Highlight the passage at 37:42

38:08 That's how the light gets in. That's how the light gets in. that's how the light gets That's how the light gets in. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I Report an error in the passage at 38:08 Highlight the passage at 38:08

38:29 don't mind being an amateur. That is the wonderful thing about living. You get to be amateurs and try something new together. Report an error in the passage at 38:29 Highlight the passage at 38:29

38:47 All right. Well, and then the silly acronym is APT, A-P-T, APT. It's APT. You follow me? APT apt awakening project together we're in an awakening project together I'm just saying that's what's happening it's apt Report an error in the passage at 38:47 Highlight the passage at 38:47

39:09 I knew I shouldn't have ended with that. Thank you for listening to this podcast offered by the San Francisco Zen Center. Our Dharma talks are offered at no cost and this is made possible by the donations we receive. Your financial support helps us to continue to offer the Dharma. For more information, visit sfzc.org and click giving. Report an error in the passage at 39:09 Highlight the passage at 39:09

39:39 May we fully enjoy the Dharma. Report an error in the passage at 39:39 Highlight the passage at 39:39