You Are Already an Ancestor
Given by Doshin Dan Gudgel at City Center on September 26th, 2026 Doshin Dan Gudgel offers gratitude to our Buddhist and personal ancestors, who have made it possible for us to practice, and who were just human beings like us.
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One of our often cited ancestors in this lineage is Ehe Dogen Zenji, a 13th century Japanese Buddhist monk who traveled to China to find the practice guidance that he was seeking and then brought what he learned back to Japan to establish a fresh expression of Buddhism there. And in one of his pieces of writing that we Sometimes chant here, the Ehe Koso Hotsuganmon. Dogen wrote, And in that same piece, he quotes Chan Master Lung Ya as saying,
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It's not easy, but it is possible, even for regular human beings like us. And those people, our ancestors of the past, who made such effort to preserve and pass on this Buddhist practice, were just as messy and difficult and irrational as me.
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accomplished by the one who is wise, who seeks the good and has obtained peace. Let one be strenuous, upright, and sincere, without pride, easily contented and joyous. Let one not be submerged by the things of the world. Let one not take upon oneself the burden of riches. Let one's senses Senses be... be controlled.
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What we cultivate in our lives right now, the life that you are already living, is what you are actively passing on into the future. This is not a rehearsal. We are doing it right now. And I see that at times in my life I have resisted taking up the place of an elder or of a host.
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Let no one deceive another. nor despise any being in any state. Let none by anger or hatred wish harm to another.
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0:13 Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Beginner's Mind Temple. Lovely to be here with you all. Thank you for finding some time in this busy world to be here, whether you're here in person. person, online, or perhaps watching a recording some unknown time in the future. Report an error in the passage at 0:13
0:38 I'm a resident and a priest here at Beginner's Mind Temple. We'll be together in this room for about the next 40 minutes or so, so please keep yourselves comfortable. If you need to adjust your position, get up and get an additional cushion, step out to get a drink of water, please do whatever takes care of you. Report an error in the passage at 0:38
1:01 And after this, I'll be in the dining room for discussion. So if you'd like to explore any of these topics further, please feel free to do that. And there will also be tea and cookies in the Welcome Center, which is a great place and opportunity to ask any general questions you might have about what we're doing, why we do it in the ways that we do. Report an error in the passage at 1:01
1:24 And folks in robes or rakasus are really good And I will also just encourage us all to just let this talk wash over you. Don't be too concerned about following every word. I know I never remember all of a dharma talk, but sometimes there is a word or an action, a phrase, something that lands and is helpful for me. Report an error in the passage at 1:24
1:59 So just let this talk wash over you. Allow that to happen if that is the case. Report an error in the passage at 1:59
2:08 In addition to being a resident here at Beginner's Mind Temple, I also have the great fortune to be the guiding priest of Mountain Source Saṅgha, which is a neighborhood Zen group that meets regularly in Marin, in San Anselmo, occasionally in Bolinas, and online. And that is the group where I first stumbled on to this Buddhist path. To my amazement, 20 years ago, 20 years ago next month, I set my first period of Zazen with Mountain Source Saṅgha. Report an error in the passage at 2:08
2:46 And now somehow I am the one leading ceremonies and guiding our collective exploration of Buddhism in that group. And in the San Francisco Zen Center world, we call these Satellite groups that have sprung out of the lineage of our founder, Shunryu Suzuki, we call these Branching Streams Saṅghas. So feel free to visit our website, take a look. There's a good chance there is a Branching Streams Saṅgha somewhere near you. And this week in particular, Mountain Source Saṅgha has been here for a week-long retreat, working and practicing alongside the residential community here. Report an error in the passage at 2:46
3:32 It's been a real joy to have this neighborhood saṅgha here in my neighborhood for the week and exploring the temple life. Many of these folks have many years of experience in Zen, in this building, in previous configurations of it, and across the world of world of Buddhism. Buddhism. Report an error in the passage at 3:32
4:01 And Mountain Source had been... gathering for zazen and service for a dozen years before I wandered into it. So this is the 32nd year of that little neighborhood saṅgha meeting every week. Report an error in the passage at 4:01
4:19 And this saṅgha has nurtured and encouraged their own shared experience alongside the fundamental teachings of Shunryu Suzuki and this lineage of Soto Zen. Report an error in the passage at 4:19
4:37 And as a neighborhood group, we particularly looked after the experience of Zen practice for folks who have jobs and families and responsibilities out in the world. Report an error in the passage at 4:37
4:52 People in this room right now have done this with their own lives. And by actively choosing to embody and perpetuate this 2,500-year-old tradition, tradition, they have created the opportunity For me and for many others to meet the Buddha's teachings. If that group had not been meeting in San Rafael 20 years ago, there's a very good chance I would not be here right now. Report an error in the passage at 4:52
5:23 My life would look very different and my life would be, I think, much poorer for that. And in fact, all it would take is a single generation of inattention and the lineage that we've inherited, Shakyamuni Buddha could be broken. So this is a sacred thing that we do, along with being a joy and a delightful community. Report an error in the passage at 5:23
6:01 I think nothing matters more than what we actually do with and in our own lives. The slow accretion of one choice, one action after another. That is what we actually pass on to the future. Report an error in the passage at 6:01
6:26 One of our often cited ancestors in this lineage is Ehe Dogen Zenji, a 13th century Japanese Buddhist monk who traveled to China to find the practice guidance that he was seeking and then brought what he learned back to Japan to establish a fresh expression of Buddhism there. Report an error in the passage at 6:26
6:51 And in one of his pieces of writing that we Sometimes chant here, the Ehe Koso Hotsuganmon. Dogen wrote, And in that same piece, he quotes Chan Master Lung Ya as saying, before Buddhas were enlightened, they were the same as we. Enlightened people of today are exactly as And I find this encouraging and also incredible. In some ways, it hardly seems possible. Report an error in the passage at 6:51
7:40 And this text, this particular passage, was very important for me in shifting my understanding of Buddhism, for clarifying the deep belief that it is actually possible for real human beings to do what Shakyamuni Buddha did. Report an error in the passage at 7:40
8:03 It's not easy, but it is possible, even for regular human beings like us. Report an error in the passage at 8:03
8:13 And those people, our ancestors of the past, who made such effort to preserve and pass on this Buddhist practice, were just as messy and difficult and irrational as me. Report an error in the passage at 8:13
8:28 And someone as human as I am can actually wake up to the true reality of the world. If our ancestors say so, I believe it is possible. And I've noticed that this piece by Dogen seems to be getting quoted a fair bit around here lately, in classes and in talks. And I'm thinking maybe it's something that we humans especially need to hear right now. It's certainly something that I feel I have needed to hear and be reminded of again and again. Report an error in the passage at 8:28
9:09 There is hope. For us regular human beings. Report an error in the passage at 9:09
9:16 And if I accept that it's possible to actually wake up to the true nature of reality, but then I don't try to do that, then that is one of the choices, one of the actions I take with my life of letting that opportunity of being a human being pass me by. Report an error in the passage at 9:16
9:42 So today I'm encouraging us all to practice right where we are. To recognize that we're already having an effect on the world, and so we might as well take it seriously. Report an error in the passage at 9:42
9:59 Monasteries and monastic vows are not essential. And it does, I think, also seem like they're helpful for many of us. Report an error in the passage at 9:59
10:12 This Mountain Source Saṅgha is a neighborhood group. I call it Parish Church Zen. We've been meeting in rented rooms and church spaces. For all of this, 32 years. One space after another, a few years at a time, and then the rent goes up or the building is sold and we find a new space. Report an error in the passage at 10:12
10:40 We gather, we set up the meditation space and the altar. We practice together for an hour or an hour and a half or half a day. Report an error in the passage at 10:40
10:50 And then we pack it all away and we go back to this thing that we sometimes call regular life. Report an error in the passage at 10:50
11:01 Our current Tuesday morning space in Sen and Selmael has a preschool just across the church courtyard. So we are often meditating while the parents are dropping off their kids and while the neighbors are walking their dogs, while the rest of the world is waking up and getting ready to rush out for another workday. Report an error in the passage at 11:01
11:25 This practice exists right in the middle of the real world. And the real world is wrapped up by this practice. Many of the members of Mountain Source Saṅgha have in the past and continue to dip back and forth into longer formal practice from time to time. Report an error in the passage at 11:25
11:49 And we all move back and forth across this threshold of formal practice and regular life. And each one pollinates the other. Report an error in the passage at 11:49
12:05 Another helpful, encouraging quote that I've been hearing repeated a lot lately is this one from Thich Nhat Hanh. The next Buddha will be the Saṅgha. Report an error in the passage at 12:05
12:22 And I see this again and again in this parish church style of Zen practice. Report an error in the passage at 12:22
12:32 Each of us, as we're sitting together and discussing and exploring the dharma, we absorb the lessons and the attitude, hopefully a little bit of the balance and equanimity. And then that radiates out into our families, into our workplaces, into the highway traffic and the grocery store checkout lines. Report an error in the passage at 12:32
13:02 I notice almost every week how different it is driving up 101 before I spend an hour and a half meditating and discussing the dharma and then driving back down 101 after that. Report an error in the passage at 13:02
13:23 The first part of that journey is early in the morning when the highway is quiet and empty, and on the way back it's usually about 9 or 9.30, so still within the southbound rush hour. And even so, I'm usually a lot calmer and gentler and more willing to cooperate on the road on the way home than I was early in the morning when I had the road practically to myself. Report an error in the passage at 13:23
13:56 So in this modern world, this enormously populated, enormously complex world, sometimes it's hard for me to imagine a single individual having the sort of radical effect that Shakyamuni Buddha had in his own lifetime. Report an error in the passage at 13:56
14:15 But I can very easily see how helpful it is for an entire community of Buddhists to do their best to be kind and gentle and ethical and upright. Report an error in the passage at 14:15
14:31 And there's so much knowledge in this world, so many teachings, so many tips and tricks about how to maximize or optimize our lives. Report an error in the passage at 14:31
14:45 And there's a very small amount that each of us, any one of So I think we should be really very picky about what we put into our minds. and what we then put into the minds of others. Report an error in the passage at 14:45
15:08 Some knowledge becomes dated and unhelpful very quickly. How to... set the clock on a VCR, even what a VCR is, this is not essential knowledge any longer. Report an error in the passage at 15:08
15:25 So turning towards the long-running spiritual wisdom traditions of this planet, I think what they have maintained and passed down deserves our care and attention. I happen to favor this Zen Buddhist path, but I think any long-held, deeply felt spiritual wisdom tradition is likely to be helpful and an aid to reducing suffering in the world as it is in this moment. Report an error in the passage at 15:25
16:04 And it used to be much harder to pass knowledge and culture onto future generations when everything had to be embodied and memorized. And now I see that I at least can easily become complacent, that the Buddha's teachings have been written down, that I can just have a computer read these things to me. Report an error in the passage at 16:04
16:33 It would be easy for me to put off practice for later, and then later, and then a little bit later. But knowing that there is a spiritual teaching out there is very different than actually living a spiritual path. Report an error in the passage at 16:33
16:58 There's an old Buddhist text that we chant here several times a week, the Mettā Sutta, or the loving-kindness meditation. Report an error in the passage at 16:58
17:10 And this text comes to us from the Sutta Nipata, which is a collection of some of the oldest Buddhist texts. So I think of this as likely being closer to the words of the Buddha himself than some of our subsequent texts. And there are references in the Pāli Canon to the Mettā Sutta. And so it seems to have been well known from the earliest layer of Buddhism. Report an error in the passage at 17:10
17:49 And this text was also a particular favorite of One of the past Mountain Source Saṅgha teachers, Layla Smith Bockhorst, it was one of her most frequent requests for a chant and was the last chant that was chanted before she passed. Report an error in the passage at 17:49
18:12 And so this chant comes from the era of Buddhism before anything was written down, when memorizing the teachings was a core part of the training of monks. Report an error in the passage at 18:12
18:26 And we hear that at least from one source that the Buddha gave this particular text to the monks when they were having trouble with some forest spirits who were keeping them from meditating peacefully and the Buddha said take this chant chant this in the forest the spirits will be calmed So for those Report an error in the passage at 18:26
18:52 who know this chant, I'd like to chant it together now. If you don't know it, please just listen. If you kind of know it, feel free to dip in and out with the bits that you do know, or just listen and take it in. Report an error in the passage at 18:52
19:12 And I'd like us to imagine how this text was originally used and transmitted. Report an error in the passage at 19:12
19:23 Freshly ordained monks or young seekers who had not even been ordained yet would have been in the presence of their elders, heard this text chanted, And they would have been asked to memorize it. So just tuck that knowledge away in the back of your mind. And we will chant the loving kindness meditation together. Report an error in the passage at 19:23
19:52 Loving kindness meditation. Meditation Report an error in the passage at 19:52
20:02 accomplished by the one who is wise, who seeks the good and has obtained peace. Let one be strenuous, upright, and sincere, without pride, easily contented and joyous. Let one not be submerged by the things of the world. Let one not take upon oneself the burden of riches. Let one's senses Senses be... be controlled. Report an error in the passage at 20:02
20:30 Let one be wise, but not puffed up, and let one not desire. desired possessions, even for one's Let one do nothing that is mean or that the wise would reprove. May all beings be happy. May they be joyous and live in safety. All living beings, whether weak or strong, in high or middle or low realms of existence, small or great. Report an error in the passage at 20:30
21:04 visible or invisible near or far born or to be born may all beings be happy let no one deceive another nor despise any being in any state let none by anger or hatred wish harm to another even as a mother at the risk of her life watches over and protects her only child so with a boundless mind should one cherish all living things, suffusing love over the entire world, above, below, So let one cultivate an infinite goodwill toward the whole world, standing or walking, sitting or lying down, during all one's waking hours, let one practice the way with gratitude, not holding to fixed views, endowed with insight, freed from sense appetites. Report an error in the passage at 21:04
22:11 One who achieves the way will be freed from the duality of birth and death. So Report an error in the passage at 22:11
22:30 those of you who just helped recite that text, do you remember that there was a time when you had never heard it before? Report an error in the passage at 22:30
22:43 Do you remember that there was a time you heard that text? For the very first time, a time when you realized you had memorized that text. Report an error in the passage at 22:43
23:01 We all share this one great experience of practice. Report an error in the passage at 23:01
23:12 In his piece called The Dharma When Meeting Senior Instructors, Ehe Dogen, the medieval Japanese monk, also wrote, you should know that temporarily we are guest and host. For our whole lives, we truly will be. nothing other than Buddha's and ancestors. Report an error in the passage at 23:12
23:40 Those who just heard that text for the first time, or for whom it is still new, You may temporarily be a guest in this situation. Report an error in the passage at 23:40
23:53 In some aspects of our lives, we are always guests. In others, hosts. But for our whole lives, we truly will be. than Buddhas and ancestors, together through time. Report an error in the passage at 23:53
24:18 Some of the elders who shepherded this practice through 2,500 years are here in this room. Some of the elders who specifically have helped and supported me are here in this room. Report an error in the passage at 24:18
24:40 I am deeply grateful to my elders. They once were brand new to Buddhism. And they could have turned away from it at any point, but they did not. And so we are all benefiting right now from that choice and from the opportunity to be in this room with our Buddhist ancestors. Report an error in the passage at 24:40
25:13 This community has benefited this week from the presence of some of these elders who are temporarily guests and hosts. And someday, perhaps someone will say about us, once we were in the room with our elders. I remember it. We learned this from them. Report an error in the passage at 25:13
25:44 What we cultivate in our lives right now, the life that you are already living, is what you are actively passing on into the future. Report an error in the passage at 25:44
25:57 This is not a rehearsal. We are doing it right now. Report an error in the passage at 25:57
26:04 And I see that at times in my life I have resisted taking up the place of an elder or of a host. In earlier phases of my life I sometimes outright avoided responsibility as much as possible. Report an error in the passage at 26:04
26:25 And once I stepped into this practice, the first few times that people quoted my dharma words back at me, it was actually frightening. Report an error in the passage at 26:25
26:38 Just to think, oh my God, people are listening and what I say may actually affect what they do in the world. I'm just a regular person. Report an error in the passage at 26:38
26:51 And so I really needed to see and accept that I was already in every moment inhabiting this role of perhaps a little baby ancestor. Report an error in the passage at 26:51
27:10 Some time ago, a friend was telling me how tired she is of having to work. against the same sexist, racist systems that people have been working against for so long in this world. Report an error in the passage at 27:10
27:28 And I really did not have a good response at that time. So I've been continuing to turn that in my mind. Report an error in the passage at 27:28
27:50 And I've found, and I now think, In my own experience at least, one of the sources of energy and inspiration to continue trying to reduce suffering and to continue trying to find and spread joy in this world is recognition and gratitude for the efforts of our ancestors. Report an error in the passage at 27:50
28:15 There is still an enormous amount of suffering in the world, far, far too much, and it seems like we've lost ground. ground on easing some of this suffering. And at the same time, if the Buddha, if Bodhidharma, if Harriet Tubman, if Marsha P. Johnson, if Wendell Berry, if our own teachers, if our parents, if our own innumerable ancestors had not made the efforts that they did, we would have even more suffering still on the plate to take care of right now. Report an error in the passage at 28:15
28:58 Yes, things are difficult, and I am deeply grateful to all who came before that things are not worse than they are right now. Report an error in the passage at 28:58
29:13 I do really wish that more of those who came before us had really stepped into their roles as ancestors and tried harder in their own time. Report an error in the passage at 29:13
29:26 And that points me right back at how I better not give up. How I again and again take as my fundamental vow, I vow to keep trying. I don't know how it's going to turn out. And it appears in my current state, I again and again stumble and have to turn back to the path, remind myself of my intentions. But if I can hold this fundamental vow to just keep trying. Report an error in the passage at 29:26
30:04 That's one piece that I have some control over. Report an error in the passage at 30:04
30:16 Nearly 200 years ago, John Ruskin wrote in The Seven Lamps of Architecture, when we build, let us think that we build forever. Report an error in the passage at 30:16
30:33 Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for. And let us think. as we lay stone on stone that a time is to come when those stones will be held sacred because our hands have touched them. And they will say as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, see this our ancestors. Report an error in the passage at 30:33
31:06 This Report an error in the passage at 31:06
31:13 attitude seems so far from the disposable Fast-paced, iterative, constantly revised culture that we're living in here and now, that sometimes I'm amazed that this comes from the same world. Report an error in the passage at 31:13
31:33 What work will our descendants thank us for? What are we doing now in our own lives to perpetuate good? Report an error in the passage at 31:33
31:46 We are building something right now far more durable than any single structure. We are building the future of this planet. Report an error in the passage at 31:46
32:00 So how do Report an error in the passage at 32:00
32:13 we practice with all of this? What concretely can we do? First, I suggest remember your teachers and your ancestors. Remember those who have improved your life, who have made difficult decisions. and insisted on what they felt was right, not just what was convenient. Think explicitly and specifically about what you've learned. Report an error in the passage at 32:13
32:49 Think about what helped you and what you wish would have been there to help you and then offer exactly that to those around you. Report an error in the passage at 32:49
33:02 Acknowledge, connect with, and be a friend and neighbor to your neighbors. Report an error in the passage at 33:02
33:10 Your legacy in this world begins at your fingertips and on the tip of your tongue. Report an error in the passage at 33:10
33:25 of the reduction of suffering right here and right now as soon as the opportunity arises. There are no second chances. Each moment of suffering that is unaddressed ripples out into the world. Report an error in the passage at 33:25
33:45 Each act of reducing suffering also ripples out into the world. Report an error in the passage at 33:45
33:54 Concretely, this week, Mountain Source Saṅgha has gathered here in this temple, bringing Parish Church Zen into the temple and recharging from the temple to take it back out into the world. I've been surrounded for an entire week by my ancestors, by my friends, by those If you can find an opportunity to do something similar, do it as soon as possible. Report an error in the passage at 33:54
34:34 And I also think it's helpful to identify a few teachings, a few texts, a few phrases, a few poems, some intentions, some prayers, some songs, whatever it is that helps you, and get those things into your brain. Report an error in the passage at 34:34
34:54 Memorize and practice what you believe in and what has helped you so that it's part of you, so that it's always accessible and ready to be shared. You don't have to memorize the whole Pāli Canon. Find one piece that helps you, hold it close, and share it whenever it seems like it will be helpful to someone else. Report an error in the passage at 34:54
35:26 Let no one deceive another. nor despise any being in any state. Let none by anger or hatred wish harm to another. Even as a mother, at the risk of her life, watches over and protects her only child, so with a boundless mind should one cherish all. Report an error in the passage at 35:26
35:54 over the entire world, above, below, and all around, without limit. So let one cultivate an infinite goodwill toward the whole world. Thank Report an error in the passage at 35:54
36:17 you all for being here. You are already easing the suffering of the world just by stepping into the temple for a moment. Report an error in the passage at 36:17
36:30 I hope that intention can continue in your own lives in whatever way best suits you and your conditions. And if you'd like to chat about it a little bit, I'll be in the dining room after this. Feel free to bring tea and cookies to the conversation. I will certainly be stopping by for some tea and cookies before I head back for the conversation. And feel free to come and go from that discussion, however suits you as well. Report an error in the passage at 36:30
37:01 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all for trying to shine a little light into the world. One moment of pure, clear, selfless activity is enough to get it started. Thank you. Thank you for listening to this podcast offered by the San Francisco Zen Center. Our Dharma talks are offered free of charge, and this is made possible by the donations we receive. Report an error in the passage at 37:01
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Talk by Doshin Dan Gudgel, recorded 26 September 2026. Original at San Francisco Zen Center: https://sfzc.engagewisdom.com/talks/you-are-already-ancestor. Licensed No license stated; shared with the archive's knowledge (courtesy note). Transcript generated automatically and may contain errors; the audio is the authoritative version.
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