Awakening With the Help of Just This Body
02/28/2026, Grace Dammann, dharma talk at City Center. Dr. Grace Dammann shares her journey through medicine, Zen practice, disability, and spiritual awakening.
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- 0:36
My name is Grace Dammann. Obviously, it feels like I was in the Buddha Hall lifetimes ago. Today, I want to talk about how we can use our bodies as vehicles on the bodhisattva path, which is the path of those of us who aspire to help people cross over. Can you hear me? It's okay. But look around. My body is obviously different. Look around you, everywhere. Everybody's body is different.
- 2:38
I have used my body as a means of navigating those somewhat troublesome waters, and that's what I'm going to talk about. Right now I'm struck by a memory of having been in this Buddha hall 40 years ago, I think. Anyway, I was getting Jukai. Most of you know what Jukai is, but that's a means by which people join the path.
- 32:42
Sūtra doesn't say that suffering is eliminated. It says that it's nature saying through. Avalokiteshvara perceives the emptiness of the five skandhas and is freed from suffering as a result. But that's quite different from saying that suffering no longer arises. rises. I began asking again my body to be a guide. I asked my heart, what do I have left to do or undo before I die?
- 35:22
The whole thing, birth, death, mostly their meanings. How to love better, how to be a kinder person, how to find... Meaning in our lives, how they can manifest as meaning in our life. We arrive right there through practice, resting on the eightfold path. Right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration.
- 42:27
Dogen who's often oblique indirect is here crystal clear body and mind are not simpler gateway for something they are the way your body As the site of practice becomes synonymous with the whole earth, the universal is found in the flesh. And a damaged body is not an obstacle to awakening. It may be exactly where the teaching becomes undeniable. I wake up every day so grateful to still be alive.
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0:15 Good morning. How many of you are here for the first time? Great. Just let the words wash over you. Don't have to pay attention. Just breathe deeply. Get relaxed, at the very least. least. Report an error in the passage at 0:15
0:36 My name is Grace Dammann. Obviously, it feels like I was in the Buddha Hall lifetimes ago. Today, I want to talk about how we can use our bodies as vehicles on the bodhisattva path, which is the path of those of us who aspire to help people cross over. Can you hear me? It's okay. Report an error in the passage at 0:36
1:04 But look around. My body is obviously different. Look around you, everywhere. Everybody's body is different. Buddhism emphasizes all day sickness and death. These are the ground of all of our being. They're also the ground of the first noble truth, which is that there is suffering. The cause of suffering, however, is what our minds do with that fact. Report an error in the passage at 1:04
1:35 What our minds, filled with delusion, anger, and envy, do with the fact of old age, sickness, and death. There is a path out. That's the third noble truth. And the fourth noble truth is the Buddha way, noble eightfold path. All of this is true at the level of what is. However, at the other level, which is where most of us live, the weight of What kind of adjectives we use to put on top of suffering is what gives us real problems. Basically, we spend our whole lives asking ourselves, what am I going to do when I grow up? Report an error in the passage at 1:35
2:22 What kind of person do I want to be? You ask those questions yourself. How many don't ask those questions? The quest and the questions go on for lifetime, lifetime after lifetime. I have used my body as a means of navigating those somewhat troublesome waters, and that's what I'm going to talk about. Right now I'm struck by a memory of having been in this Buddha hall 40 years ago, I think. Anyway, I was getting Jukai. Report an error in the passage at 2:22
3:03 Most of you know what Jukai is, but that's a means by which people join the path. They formally take precepts. You write on a rock suit. You sew a rock suit. This is my rock suit. It's written on the back with your Buddhist name that you're given during the ceremony. Anyway, I was an intern at San Francisco General, and I had no idea what I was doing. Let's just say I had no idea why I was doing this at all. Report an error in the passage at 3:03
3:35 I would walk down the hallways. I was doing labor and I didn't have time to sit, so I had to measure every stitch. And I think they're 0.3 millimeters or centimeters. Anyway, I took a measuring stick and I measured each stick as I walked around. And what I knew for a fact was that a baby was about to be born. Report an error in the passage at 3:35
4:00 I loved the experience. I didn't know what I was doing, but I loved the fact. The baby was soon to be born. Nonetheless, I had this strong intuition that I needed to be led into something or maybe out of something. I just didn't know what. So then, the day of Tukai, we have a one-day sitting. I cried my eyeballs out with all syrup. Report an error in the passage at 4:00
4:31 I had no idea why I was crying. I'm sure some of you have experienced. That kind of upwelling motion. Let me see a sign. Somebody's experiencing it beside me. Anyway, at the end of the ceremony, our teacher, Rabbi Anderson, took those of us who had gotten Jukai up to his doksan room because he wanted to show us the ketchi miyaku, which are the lineage papers that were given as part of the ceremony. Report an error in the passage at 4:31
5:05 And the lineage papers start with the name of Buddha, and in red ink, they go down through many generations to your teacher, in this case, Rep Anderson, and below your teacher's name. And I can't remember whether it's in the given name or my real name. They're both real. I think it's in black ink. Am I right? Is it black? No, maybe red. Our name is written. And red unfurling to Ketchy Miyako was like an Olympic event of origami, the most insidious order. Report an error in the passage at 5:05
5:53 I don't recommend you try to undo your Ketchy. You'll never get it back together. I finally understood exactly why I had done this. I had joined a lineage. There was a bloodline that connected me to the Buddha. It didn't matter that I didn't necessarily love the Jukai group I was with, though some of them remained friends 40 years ago. Report an error in the passage at 5:53
6:24 But it just mattered that I did it. My relief was immeasurable. My body had taken me there. I asked to receive Jukai. Mostly because I loved sewing and sitting. I had said to my heart, heart, do you want me to do this? My heart said yes. In the same way, my body had taken me to medical school at age 35. I'd ask my therapist, because everybody needs a therapist in San Francisco, especially if you don't know what to do, which most of the time, none of us know what to do. Report an error in the passage at 6:24
7:09 And I said, how do you make big decisions in your life? What do you do? And she said, I sit very quietly. I meditate. I ask my heart, what do you want to do? Then here's the key, Grace. You have got to be willing to do it. Just do it. So anyway, I sat on the bed the next morning, meditated as well as I could for a couple of minutes, not long. Report an error in the passage at 7:09
7:39 I asked my heart, what do you want me to do? And it said, go to medical school. And I said, you have got to be kidding. I'm not a straight-A student. I haven't taken none of the prerequisites. I'm 35. Nonetheless, I embarked on the Enterprise. And part of embarking on the Enterprise brought me to Zen Center because I realized when I was doing the prerequisites at Mills College, That I needed to calm down. And I thought, how do you calm down? I thought, I think you meditate. Report an error in the passage at 7:39
8:17 So I sat and tried to meditate. I fell asleep promptly. So I thought, I need a place where you can't go to sleep. So I came to Zen Center. I looked it up in the phone book. And I came here and I got practice instruction. And I would sit, come and sit every day at 5.30. That was my beginning. And from there, I went to Tassajara, where I decided not only did they have a closed door, but they had really good coffee and really, really good food and really great warm baths, and it's beautiful. Report an error in the passage at 8:17
8:57 So without a second's note, I said, I think to Catherine Sann, look, I want to forego my internship. Just come down here. Do a practice. And I also said that Blanche Hartman was living in Green Gulch. And they said, no, no, no. That's not the way you do it. You need to go and complete your training. We're always here. You can come and do it when you're done. Report an error in the passage at 8:57
9:28 So anyway, that's exactly what I did. I moved in with Fuchs Rader. And they let me live at Green Gold as a spouse, which is really unusual. And Fu and I were asked, called really early one morning, and asked if we would be the home to a child at risk who had just been born. Report an error in the passage at 9:28
9:54 Anyway, we said, let's go to the Zendo. Where do you make any big decision but in the Zendo? So we each came out of the Zendo. I asked my heart once again. Heart, what do you want to do? Just say yes. That's what my heart said. And fooze also. Anyway, we went, met the baby. Ten days later, none of us had no idea that was coming. But we just said yes. Report an error in the passage at 9:54
10:27 And I was in a very fortunate situation at Green Gulch because I was first there as a spouse and then later as a mother. So I didn't have any of the real practice obligations sitting on my shoulder. I went often to the Zen Do, mostly when Sabrina was awake or Fu was around. And I loved coming back, walking and looking at the blossoms, this land of light which changed every day. Report an error in the passage at 10:27
10:59 And it really gave me sanctuary. It slowed me down. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. But nonetheless, I was a very busy mother and doctor. I had practices in both Mill Valley and San Francisco. And sometimes I was crossing the bridge three times a day. But by love and circumstance, I'd become an AIDS physician at that time. Report an error in the passage at 10:59
11:28 It was at the height of the epidemic. And then 18 years ago, I decided to go to the retirement board just to find out. I all of a sudden discovered I actually had a retirement policy. I had no intention of having a retirement policy ever. Did I give any thought to money? No. I loved medicine. I practiced it. But I am the beneficiary of the greatest health insurance and the greatest retirement program in the world, probably. Report an error in the passage at 11:28
12:04 Anyway, I found out that I would be eligible to retire 18 months, or no, 12 months on my birthday. So I came back from the retirement board thinking, yes, I'm going to go to Tassajara, do my one practice period there that I have left to do for ordination. I'm going to go back and get ordained. I'm going to work, of course. Report an error in the passage at 12:04
12:33 But I'm going to get to practice and work. And then I told that to my best friend. Then I went off to pick up my daughter at school to go back home where we both had dental hygiene support, not just dental, getting our teeth cleaned. And so we were crossing the Golden Gate Bridge. And through a combination of circumstances, decisions, Lots of people made, myself mostly included. Forty minutes later, we were on a bad collision on the Golden Gate Bridge. Report an error in the passage at 12:33
13:11 And what happened was somebody who became later a really good friend of mine, Pat, went into atrial fibrillation. That's erratic heartbeat. And when you do that, sometimes you pass out. So he went from the far left. Dr. San Francisco, across three lanes of traffic, because there were those flimsy yellow stop signs or cones. Report an error in the passage at 13:11
14:01 I didn't have side airbags. Both my child and my dog, thank God, were well. I mean, they each spent a night in the ICU. I, however, spent about 12, 13 months in the hospital. I was near the end of my stay in the hospital, pretty much before I was going to get discharged. I was invited to give a talk. At the Ritz-Carlton in San Francisco. And I had to be discharged to do it. The Dalai Lama was the main attraction. Report an error in the passage at 14:01
14:42 Why I agreed to give this talk is just an indication of how badly brain damaged I truly was. I mean, my MRI to this day looks like my brain looks like mush. But nonetheless, when I was asked, I said yes. I was big into the business of just say yes. Report an error in the passage at 14:42
15:06 Then Isabel Allende, the great writer, Latin American writer, also happens to be my child's step-grandmother, offered to take my job, which was to give out the ceremonial katas, cloths that the Dalai had blessed. We were supposed to drape them around each of the participants. 50 honorees. I said at that point, I couldn't even move my arm, much less receive a katha, much less do anything except drop it. Report an error in the passage at 15:06
15:44 So at one, Isabel said, how about if you take my job? I forgot that here she's a noted speaker, really gifted, very funny. She loves to talk. So I again said, yes, I'll do that. So Phu drove me to the Ritz Carlton, and when I arrived, I was so overwhelmed by all of the sights, smells, and sounds. I mean, there were women in beautiful saris. I hadn't seen anything but pale green for 11 months then. I looked around everywhere, and Phu kept saying, you've got to do everything I tell you to do. Report an error in the passage at 15:44
16:32 And I said, yes, Fu. Yes, Fu. Meanwhile, I wouldn't do anything. And she kept saying, we have got to go to the ball. I said, just give me a minute. I had been in Pew Green for 11 months. Here I am. Let me enjoy this. And I prayed on her guilt. And frankly, it worked for a couple of minutes. And then she thought, hell with this. Report an error in the passage at 16:32
17:01 What she wants to do, she's very good at that. She pushed me up. She said, we are going. I've got to get you up on the dais because you've got to speak. Meanwhile, I had written, in fact, a 10-minute talk. The way I did it was speech. Therapists would go over it every day with me. I would add one sentence. So sentence by sentence, this not bad talk was built. Report an error in the passage at 17:01
17:31 I don't know what it said, but apparently it was not bad. Anyway, so I'm up on the dais, again, savoring all the sights, smells. By then, food was at the smell, and I just lost my stomach tube so I could actually eat. So looking forward to eating. Anyway, and I watched his whole list walk in. All of a sudden, I became a doctor. I thought, oh, my. Report an error in the passage at 17:31
18:02 He looks to be cardiogenic shock. That was a really bad diagnosis on my part. But anyway, he looked like he was going to die. I kept saying, not on my watch. Not on my watch. No way. So he came right up because we'd met before. Started messing with my microphone. I must have looked like he looked to me. I mean, Granted, I was wearing red, but I was puke green. I had been in puke green too long, and I lost 20 pounds, so I was probably like a scarecrow. Report an error in the passage at 18:02
18:46 Anyway, he was very concerned, and I couldn't move anything. I'm sitting there with my arms straight out, just like that. Meanwhile, I'm reciting code blue scenarios. Meaning, what do I do if he passes out? And I hadn't had to do that for two years, so I'm really lost. Hopefully, it's a PEA that I can remember what to do. Report an error in the passage at 18:46
19:16 I couldn't remember anything else. Pulseless activity. PEA, pulseless extreme activity. But he didn't. I forgot, of course, that he has this great... Secret Service detail that's got some of the best trained first responders going. After all, they've had to deal with presidents who've been shot. This was minor. I was not going to have to be the first in line. I was not in charge. But meanwhile, I had myself charged. Report an error in the passage at 19:16
19:53 Anyway, so he's trying to adjust my microphone. I'm trying to talk. Finally, we call for... and they come running up to help. We should have called for them ten minutes earlier. But by that point we're both left pretty much hysterically, nuzzling foreheads. And I think to myself in that moment, I have lived in a practice community for twenty-five years and yet here I am with this wonderful, delightful, zany human being. Report an error in the passage at 19:53
20:30 How did he get to be how he is? And all of a sudden my gut said, you know the answer, practice. I thought, practice. Something there, practice. So I, in that moment, made a real commitment to make life, make practice the center of my life when I got out. And what do I mean by practice? I think you guys know. What do you mean by practice? Report an error in the passage at 20:30
21:00 I mean, looking at our minds, penetrating all the stories we tell ourselves, recognizing that there's no fixed self, no fixed anything, and trying to live by the Four Noble Truths, culminating in the Eightfold Path. So when I returned to Green Gulch, having already been given permission to start sewing maybe five years earlier, Report an error in the passage at 21:00
21:28 I did exactly that. But I kept getting so seasick that Christina had to help me figure out a way so that I wouldn't get seasick because I shook so much. I could barely put my needle. I could not thread my needle, first of all. But there's a way around not being able to thread your needle. But there isn't a way really about not being able to sew if you're shaking so much. But Christina, bless her heart. Report an error in the passage at 21:28
21:58 I figured out if I just put a zap on my lap, I could stick that and stick the material and pull it all out. Lo and behold, I got stitches done. Report an error in the passage at 21:58
22:14 It felt this just was what was. It felt choiceless is all I can say. And then at some point it became very clear that I can no longer remain at Green Gulch. I needed much too much care, and it wasn't fair to Foo, it wasn't fair to Sabrina or me or the community. So I went and found a place where I could live with help, and that's right near Green Gulch, actually. Report an error in the passage at 22:14
22:45 It's at the Redwoods in San Francisco, I mean in Mill Valley, which I highly recommend. I began going back to work one day a week. I remained close enough to Green Gulch so that I could go to Sunday lecture and work in the guest program. And I even thought briefly about joining staff, which I never did. And about eight years ago, at 70, I fell in love again. Report an error in the passage at 22:45
23:18 Totally surprising, unexpected, somehow glorious. And at a real level. Satisfied and continues to satisfy the very ground of my being. It has a lot of day-to-day texture, meaning we together, we meditate together, we hold hands when we sleep together. Report an error in the passage at 23:18
23:40 And it gave my body a chance to really start waking up. It's impossible to talk about the body without thinking about sex, procreation, recreation, all of which I got to engage in once again. It doesn't change my stance on life, but it certainly makes it much, I have a lot more exhilaration about it. Report an error in the passage at 23:40
24:05 And the world is, I mean, I think my relationship is enlivened by my relationship to the world. I think the whole 18 years following the accident, the projects that I undertook during those days, like getting the median barrier built, made that period something more. I am not thriving. I am just surviving. And I said, I want more of myself. I've got a deeper intention. Report an error in the passage at 24:05
24:47 I wanted to help people find their way, most definitely myself. I wanted once again to know my best friend. My body, whom I felt like I had lost after the accident, and about eight months ago, I was ordained as a Buddhist priest by Christina in the Soto Zen lineage. Once again, I was given a new name, new robes, new raksu, new bowls. My head was shaved. Report an error in the passage at 24:47
25:18 Most of all, I got to recite the precepts again. Once again, I got to talk about... My intention to live for the benefit of all beings. I will never forget how happy I was that day, articulating the same thing that I've already been articulating for 35 years. Report an error in the passage at 25:18
25:45 What is all of this to do with the body? Well, I'm 76 now, I'm 78 now, and I think it's finally taken. I wrote to His Holiness the Dalai Lama to let him know. Thank you for your time. me to let him know what I'd done and I received a wonderful letter back from his secretary saying his holiness doesn't remember anything about the fact that you thought he was gonna die but he wishes you very well and he was very amused and I thought great Report an error in the passage at 25:45
26:26 My body has been the compass for everything. Significant decision in my life. I first decided to go to medical school. When my therapist told me just to pay attention, ask my heart, I decided to adopt a baby after getting a call one morning. Ten days later, we were mothers. No regrets. Not whatsoever. No regrets. The motto of my grade school was to live is to serve. Report an error in the passage at 26:26
26:58 And the motto... My Quaker high school was let your life speak. But somewhere in the middle, after the accident, I felt in between. And I think it was because I became disabled and because I felt like I really didn't know what my body was anymore. By any definition, I am gravely disabled. I cannot. Report an error in the passage at 26:58
27:29 Gravely disabled includes anybody who can't walk, climb stairs, hearing loss, visual loss, can't make decisions on their own, can't make independent choices, is unable to do errands for themselves. And I certainly can't walk upstairs. I certainly can't reach my toes or head. So getting dressed is a real problem. Report an error in the passage at 27:29
27:58 Bathing alone is a real problem. I cannot live safely on my own, period, the end. And yet I consider myself extraordinarily lucky. Report an error in the passage at 27:58
28:12 Roughly 25 % of all adult Americans are disabled and only 3 % of all physicians report disability. I think that's underreporting. About 40 % of... American population are disabled or unemployed, and 25 % live below the poverty level. In other words, in America, to be disabled is to be undereducated, underemployed, probably impoverished. Report an error in the passage at 28:12
28:49 And in California, disabled people are six times more likely to suffer from depression and three times more likely. To have significant heart disease, both of which the heart disease is still the big killer in California. I find these statistics horrifying. At some level, I'm really shy about presenting them in a dharma talk. And yet, I'm doing it because it's the position I find myself in. Report an error in the passage at 28:49
29:21 And it's a part of a way of bearing witness. Bearing witness. I think we all have given a job. This is part of my job. So you guys are part of, that's why you're hearing this. And yet, and yet, and yet, as much as these truths pointed to real suffering and a path forward, I kept thinking I am more than disabled. Report an error in the passage at 29:21
29:49 I am both disabled and something much more. Report an error in the passage at 29:49
29:56 My deepest intention is not to be An example of resilience or a poster child for bridge safety or a character in film. These images helped sustain in the immediate aftermath of the accident, but they weren't the truth of what my existence is. What I was really trying to do underneath all of it, and I think this is what we're all trying to do, was heal ourselves. Report an error in the passage at 29:56
30:29 Isn't that what you guys are trying to do? One of the things I love about Buddhism is that it treats old age sickness and death as not special. I'm not the only one who's old age sick and dying. All of you guys are walking the same ground. This is the ground of human existence. Some people experience that ground more dramatically. I am no different. Report an error in the passage at 30:29
31:01 I remember the tremendous joy. I felt when I first learned to surf at age 50. Fortunately, I have a very kinesthetic memory, so I could just imagine being in an ocean beach. I can feel the waves. Thank God. But this wasn't the kind of alignment I was after. Post-traumatic growth is not the resolution of suffering, and it's not the resilience in the sense of passing, bouncing back to the normal state. Report an error in the passage at 31:01
31:59 The person who has grown is changed, and the pain that catalyzed that growth still exists. Researchers describe it as kind of coexistent. The person simultaneously experiences grief and loss and ongoing struggle while also holding on to a deeper appreciation of life, new possibilities, Transformed relationships. The wound and the wisdom go together. What strikes me is how this maps onto the Heart Sūtra. Report an error in the passage at 31:59
32:42 Sūtra doesn't say that suffering is eliminated. It says that it's nature saying through. Avalokiteshvara perceives the emptiness of the five skandhas and is freed from suffering as a result. But that's quite different from saying that suffering no longer arises. rises. I began asking again my body to be a guide. I asked my heart, what do I have left to do or undo before I die? Report an error in the passage at 32:42
33:16 I had spent years immediately following the accident, so grateful that I survived, so grateful that I could see my daughter graduate from middle school, high school, and college. Report an error in the passage at 33:16
33:31 But this time it was different. I was now 76 and it said, so clear, it said, your job is to stop being so slippery. And I said, what do you mean by being slippery? It said, you have started and stopped. You can manage to come by anything. Stop doing that. Start telling the truth. Love well the people you're with. Be of good cheer. Report an error in the passage at 33:31
34:02 Be like the butcher on 24th Street. Used to hand out to all of us, all the kids in the neighborhood, a piece of bologna. Everybody would walk so much happier than they walked in. Celebrate those you love and mentor the next generation. I asked my heart, what do you want me to do? How do you want me to manifest it? It said, finish what you started. Report an error in the passage at 34:02
34:33 So I went back and I asked Christina and others, they would ordain me. It was done simply with great love because I needed that kind of gently structured accountability to complete my life in a way that I would feel peace before I died. Peace with the life I've been given. There is a story about someone walking down the street. Report an error in the passage at 34:33
35:04 Seeing the Buddha and he says, who are you? He's totally impressed. The Buddha is luminescent. I am awake. The path and our practice are our means of waking up. And what do we wake up to? The whole thing, birth, death, mostly their meanings. How to love better, how to be a kinder person, how to find... Report an error in the passage at 35:04
35:34 Meaning in our lives, how they can manifest as meaning in our life. We arrive right there through practice, resting on the eightfold path. Right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. Right view rests on the understanding of the causes and reality of suffering. Report an error in the passage at 35:34
36:02 suffering and its cessation. The nature of wholesome and unwholesome thoughts and action and the cultivation of compassion and love. In Zazen we allow whatever it is to just arise. Theoretically we're supposed to just not pay attention to it. Let it arise. Let it go. This is not so easy. Which is one of the reasons we do extended retreats. Report an error in the passage at 36:02
36:35 In Sashin, we are a little sleep deprived, physically uncomfortable, deprived of our usual escapes. As a result, if we're lucky, some of our habitual resistance fades away. We simply give up. We're present to whatever arises. Case 94 in the Book of Serenity is one of my favorites. It's called Unwell. Dongshan was unwell. And a monk asked, your reverence is unwell. Is there anyone who does not become ill? Report an error in the passage at 36:35
37:17 And Dongshan says, there is. There is. The monk said, does the one who does not get ill take care of your reverence? Dongshan said, the old monk has properly taken care of that one. It's unclear who's who. That sentence. But the monk said, how about when your reverend takes care of the one? Dongshan said, then the old monk does not see that there is illness. Report an error in the passage at 37:17
37:48 So that's why there's one who is not ever sick. Commentary on this koan observes that ancient teachers, some when they were about to die, frolicked in old age, sickness, and death. Dongshan was remarkable among them. When the monk asks whether the one who is not ill is after the one who is, Dongshan reverses the expectation entirely. Report an error in the passage at 37:48
38:17 I have the opportunity to look after him. And when pressed further, how is it when you watch over him? Dongshan answers, when I watch over him, I do not see that he has any illness. This commentary tells us is where everyday practice. Empowers you when you are dying. One minute we are the one who is ill, the next we are not. Report an error in the passage at 38:17
38:45 We stop fighting what arises and insisting that things be otherwise. We really stop fighting and we discover a kind of freedom that Dongshan points to when he says, the old monk does not see that there is illness. Illness, disability, feeling diminished. diminished and health are unified and harmonized as the wholeness of life. Because in every moment there is simultaneously one who is ill, unhappy, lonely perhaps, unskillful, and one who is not. Report an error in the passage at 38:45
39:27 Transcending this duality in practice does not mean living in delusion. We live in the world of pandemics. And we live in the world of political anxiety, and we simultaneously live in the world of the absolute. We all have Buddha nature. They are the same world. We are learning to be the old monk who does not see that there is any illness. Report an error in the passage at 39:27
39:56 This is where we take refuge. This is our work. While I find this disability horrifying, in my own life, And I've been, my own life has been really disrupted by it. But I have also experienced that through this loss, a window opened up in which I learned something that I'd always known to be true. I just didn't know it was true. We never know what the future holds. We never know where... Report an error in the passage at 39:56
40:38 What the future is going to bring. We can spend our energy worrying about how things are. Or we can live fully with whatever is present. Everything changes. And in that constant change lies the real possibility of love. Love and compassion. Not because we know what they will bring us. But we simply do it to show up. We learn to love. Report an error in the passage at 40:38
41:08 We just do it. And we do it because it's our gift to each other, to the world, and most of all, to ourselves. So just say yes. Just say yes to your life. Say yes to your life. I want to conclude with A. Hay Dogen, who has a wonderful fascicle. It's right in line with Christina's practice period on how to find the way. Report an error in the passage at 41:08
41:38 It's called Shin Jin Gak. learning the way through body and mind, it's very clear. Provisionally, there are two ways to get to the Buddha way. Report an error in the passage at 41:38
41:53 One is through the mind, which I'm not going to talk about. The other is through the body, which we've been talking about somewhat. And we learn the way through our living flesh. Report an error in the passage at 41:53
42:06 What comes out of this is not only our body, but our body Report an error in the passage at 42:06
42:15 whole world find out our body is nothing but the whole world and the whole world is nothing but our body they're synonymous Dogen who's often oblique indirect is here crystal clear body and mind are not simpler gateway for something they are the way your body As the site of practice becomes synonymous with the whole earth, the universal is found in the flesh. And a damaged body is not an obstacle to awakening. Report an error in the passage at 42:15
42:55 It may be exactly where the teaching becomes undeniable. I wake up every day so grateful to still be alive. And I feel like I want to be here because I love life. I love the beauty. I love everything about this earth, and I do feel in my flesh that my body here, in this practice here, in this hall here, we are the whole world. Report an error in the passage at 42:55
43:28 I'll close with the poem by Dogen that says it better than I can, where my body has led me. What can I accomplish, he said, although not yet a Buddha? Let my priest body be a raft. Thank you very much for your kind attention. Report an error in the passage at 43:28
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Talk by Dr Grace Dammann, recorded 28 February 2026. Original at San Francisco Zen Center: http://www.sfzc.org. Licensed No license stated; shared with the archive's knowledge (courtesy note). Transcript generated automatically and may contain errors; the audio is the authoritative version.
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